Rivian allows you to disable all internet connectivity

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TLDR

  • Rivian lets owners fully disable vehicle cellular connectivity via settings (Canada) or a service appointment (US eSIM removal), at the cost of navigation, lane keeping, and OTA updates.

Key Takeaways

  • Canadian Rivian owners can toggle off all cellular data in the vehicle’s Settings > Data and Privacy menu; US owners must visit a Rivian Service location to disable the eSIM.
  • Disabling connectivity blocks data leaving the vehicle but also disables navigation, lane keeping assistance, and over-the-air software updates.
  • Active Rivian subscriptions like Connect+ are unaffected by disabling connectivity and must be cancelled separately.
  • OTA updates deliver new features, performance improvements, safety enhancements, and bug fixes, so opting out carries real functional tradeoffs.

Hacker News Comment Review

  • The Canada/US disparity (toggle vs. service appointment) drew scrutiny; commenters see the asymmetry as a regulatory compliance artifact rather than a principled design choice.
  • Losing lane keeping assistance when going offline raised debate: some read it as a punitive dark pattern, others argue live road-condition data may genuinely feed the feature.
  • A broader concern emerged around safety recalls: if the eSIM is disabled and a safety-critical software fix is issued, it is unclear whether dealers can push updates via J2534 passthrough the way ICE emissions software updates work, leaving a potential regulatory and liability gap.

Notable Comments

  • @bri3d: Raises the J2534 passthrough gap: ICE cars mandate over-the-wire emissions update paths, but EVs lack an equivalent mandate, leaving offline owners potentially unable to receive safety recalls.
  • @VortexLain: “Having to choose between being spied on and having no connectivity at all is a false dichotomy” – argues granular telemetry-off controls should exist independent of full disconnection.

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