What can we gain by losing infinity?

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TLDR

  • Ultrafinitism argues infinity is unobservable and therefore suspect, and that calculus, combinatorics, and computation already work fine without it.

Key Takeaways

  • Doron Zeilberger (Rutgers, combinatorics) contends infinity can be eliminated from math entirely with no real loss; computers already handle math with finite digit allowances.
  • Skewes’ number (e^e^e^79) has never been written in decimal form; ultrafinitists question whether unwritable values qualify as numbers at all.
  • Alexander Esenin-Volpin formalized the position in the 1960s-70s: numbers exist only if constructible within real resource limits like time, memory, or proof length.
  • Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory embeds actual infinity as a foundational default; ultrafinitism challenges that root axiom, not just edge cases.
  • Edward Nelson’s 1976 attempt to rebuild arithmetic without infinity axioms revealed the resulting system is remarkably weak, exposing how load-bearing the infinite assumption is.

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