SpaceX Valued at $800BN & Harvey Raises $160M at an $8BN Price & Netflix Acquires Warner Brothers
Jason Lemkin and Rory O’Driscoll debate SpaceX at $800B, Netflix/WBD deal, Harvey at $8B, and whether Chinese open-source models are a real threat to US AI startups.
- SpaceX at $800B is ~40x run-rate revenue on $15B growing 30%; Rory flags the valuation as hard to justify without an ‘Elon premium.’
- Lemkin bets Anthropic IPOs at $500B in H2 2026; Rory says $350-400B; math assumes ~3x revenue growth to ~$26B ARR.
- Netflix ($470B market cap) is acquiring Warner Brothers Discovery for ~$82.7B; Paramount’s competing bid relies on PE debt and the Kushner fund.
- Hollywood opposes the Netflix/WBD deal on monopsony grounds: Netflix as the dominant content buyer crushes creator leverage and pay.
- Harvey raised $160M at an $8B valuation; Airwallex raised $330M at $8B — both flagged as meaningful valuation data points in legal-AI and fintech respectively.
- Andreessen Horowitz correction: ~20% of a16z portfolio companies use open-source models, and 80% of that open-source usage is Chinese models (DeepSeek etc.), not 80% overall.
- Keith Rabois publicly flagged Airwallex data-flow risk to Chinese government entities; Lemkin and Rory disagree on whether VCs should condition investment on relocating engineers out of China.
- Prediction markets (Polymarket, Kalshi) are accumulating insider-trading risk: one anonymous trader reportedly profited millions betting correctly on Google query data across sequential days.
2025-12-11 · Watch on YouTube