Scaling AI Rocketships: ElevenLabs’ Mati Staniszewski & Lovable’s Anton Osika

ElevenLabs CEO Mati Staniszewski and Lovable CEO Anton Osika discuss hypergrowth from Europe, team-building, and why planning beyond six months is futile in AI.

• ElevenLabs crossed $200M ARR growing from zero since 2022; Lovable has tens of thousands of users including major healthcare enterprises.
• Mati runs 15 direct reports across 30 teams of 5–10; roughly half are seasoned hires, half homegrown high-slope generalists.
• Anton deliberately kept Lovable’s leadership team to 5 direct reports, prioritizing structure before adding chaos on top.
• Both CEOs plan no further than six months on product roadmap and treat research timelines as unpredictable; quarterly team syncs replace annual planning cycles.
• Mati uses a human assistant plus an auto-classification script to triage email into P0 (same-day), P1 (within week), and P2 (deprioritized).
• Anton describes building in Stockholm as hard mode for exec bench depth but an advantage for loyal, hungry talent with far less competition than Silicon Valley.
• ElevenLabs operates effectively 7-days-a-week online; candidates who cannot commit that way self-select out, which Mati frames as a feature not a bug.
• Anton’s weekly Monday 15-minute Twitter brainstorm with staff is the engine behind his high-engagement founder social presence.

2025-12-11 · Watch on YouTube